The Walking Dead Season 4

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I'm done with the show. Killing zombie kids was one thing...I'm kidding. The only other options were to let Lizzie become a walker or run off and leave her.

I still don't trust Carol, because she thinks she does what is for the good of everyone, but damn if you in the way of her idea the greater good, you might find yourself her next target. I think she over emphasized the need for Mika to be willing to kill bad living people, but that also was foreshadowing that her sister was a living threat that she couldn't defend herself against.

Sad, grim episode.

It was odd they dismissed smoke from a distant fire (the moonshine shack?) as a natural occurrence. I've read that if you are lost in the woods, make a fire and maybe rescuers will see the smoke. Of course, with Judith, they can't exactly run off to investigate a potentially dangerous thing anyway.

[Swindle]

Well, the moment you decide who gets to live and die with impuity, you are either a god or a monster or both. Carol as the ultimate arbiter is troubling and more dangerous than Lizzie because she is more capable. New the younger girl was done for the moment they showed her playing with that doll. I've been watching Doctor Who lately and it explores these kind of issues, even going so far at one point to make the Doctor a dick, proclaiming himself the "Time Lord Victorious." That's why he travels with humans to act as a check against his vanity.

[Swindle]

Think one of Maggie and Glenn are done for, burning the photo. Think Beth is done for, getting cannibal vibes at the end of the episode. Think Maggie will eat her sis unknowingly.

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That's the common belief. I'm not so sure they'd off Beth off camera. I think they are saving her fate for next season.

There's a few ways they could go.

I'm thinking someone good dies when Rick runs into the "Claimer" thugs. Losing Rick (unlikely), Carl, Michonne or Daryl will suck. Odds are on Daryl. Of course that's been rumoured for months, so I'm not sure.

Not sure if/when Rick arrives at Terminus. He may get there and find an aftermath, maybe the body of someone from his group, leaving a big "WTF happened?" for next season.

Bob the last survivor of his past groups, might die saving a group? Maybe?

[Swindle]

Think anyone outside of Rick and Carl are fair game. Carl surviving that gun shot, the magical deer that inspired Rick was heavy plot armor. I wish Carl would die because the kid can't act, but it is what it is. Rick as the lead is what the show is built around, so I can't see him dying.

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SPOILERS
Not quite what I expected.

The flashbacks were a surprise, I understood what they were conveying (if The Talking Dead didn't explain it anyway). This is probably the last time we see the prison, so it's a last cap stone on that chapter.

The Claimers gang was overconfident, I guess. They were strong guys with numbers on their side. After Joe, it seemed almost too easy.

Not sure Terminus is what people think it is. Misdirection? They seemed too intent in NOT harming Rick and Company. There's bones, but that may be more misleading the audience. The candle room indicated they'd had bad experiences with other survivors, too. But that could be a way of getting us to thinking "hey, maybe these people are GOOD".

I was right about Beth anyway. Daryl's talk with Rick was vague. "She's just gone." Come on, the details aren't that lengthy. Somebody in a car grabbed her.

[Swindle]

I have a crackpot theory that when Rick was in his coma, he got infected differently, like maybe he's half-walker already. It would explain the ability to bite out that guy's neck, as well as all the crazy ghost seeing/hallucinations.

I thought the finale was fine. The man Rick wanted to be vs the man Rick has to be. As long as he's Jack Bauer going forward and we don't see a regression again next season. Apparently, the line in the comics is, "They're FUCKING with the wrong people."

There was a lot of Beth in the flashbacks, that could be her send off, but then again, it is possible she's being held else where, I'm pretty sure I heard help from un seen prisoners as Rick's crew was being rabbited into the trap.

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I think Beth is with completely different people. It seems Terminus's method is to lure people to them, not grab people in the night.

Those guns shots hitting the ground looked fake.

The unknown guy getting attacked near the beginning was an odd throw-away scene.

[Felix]

Looked like the Terminus group is a bunch of cannibals. Rick and friends ran by a pile of skeltons that IMO appeared to be the food prepared. Odd thing is how many are in their group. I can't see a bunch of cannibals trusting each other enought to fall asleep at night. They must have an interesting set of rules there. Hard to believe Terminus would be that well stocked of ammunition to be wasting it intentionally like that. I thought they were going to shoot Carl for sure. I wonder if there's some alternate film takes out there.


Still, probably my favorite episode yet. I was wondering how the hell they were going to get away from the bad men in Daryl's group. When Rick did his thing, I yelled out loud, "Hell yeah! Fuck yeah!"
He's turning this into a vampire series
I also really liked it when Rick acknowledged Daryl as his brother. These guys will die for each other. It's interesting to see how strong the bonds between people have developed in this series.

Since Tyrese, Carol, and Judith just arrived (they weren't captured in the train car), it's going to be up to them to save the day. I think they're up to it. That guy kills with a ball ping hammer.

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Throat bite was awesome. There's something satisfying everytime Rick gets the best of a villain, be it drawing on the creeps in the bar, taking out the guy in the bathroom...

The actor who plays Terminus's Gareth has been signed as a regular, so it sounds like Terminus story will not be resolved too fast.

Interesting how Gareth said "What do want, Rick?" But later he calls all 4 of them by nicknames.

Not sure Tyrese, Carol and Judith will end up at Terminus. I'm just thinking because they have a tendency to keep at least someone from the group separate from the rest, at least since season 3. But then there's Beth out there somewhere, too.

[Swindle]

Terminus leader Gareth was quite an asshole prick. Hope for good things from him as a villain.

[Felix]

I thought Daryl would "claim" Rick, Machone, and Carl, and that would be that. That was what I loved about that episode. Some days you got to decide, are you gonna be the victims, or bite the throat out of your enemy.

At the end of the episode before last, Carol, Tyrese and Judith arrived at Terminus, where they were welcomed. However, we know it happens after the last episode because they were not captured in the train car

Either that, or it's going to be up to Beth to save everybody....the group might be in real trouble now

Carol and Tyrese will be introduced to the group completely differently since they have Judith. They'll have to play it cool and bide their time until they figure out whats going on and figure out that their friends are captured...and how to help them. Big question is, will Carol even try to help them? Looked like they were a weird cult too. Definitely looks interesting. Love this show.

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Apr 2, 2014 10:11:21 GMT -8 Felix said:

At the end of the episode before last, Carol, Tyrese and Judith arrived at Terminus, where they were welcomed. However, we know it happens after the last episode because they were not captured in the train car

They left "The Grove" after burying the girls, IIRC, we never see them make it to Terminus.

Here's something someone noticed. Mary, the Terminus cook played by Denise Crosby, seems to resemble the painting Michonne saw earlier in that house. Plus sunflowers...hmmm

[Felix]

You're right Bravo, my bad. I do wonder what went wrong with Glen & Maggies group at Terminus, they had such a nice welcome for them.