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Post by Felix on Jun 15, 2012 12:33:09 GMT -8
It looks like Aliens, it feels like Aliens, and spoiler alert there, there are aliens  Worth watching. Spoilers below................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................ Just watch before you read on........................................................... ...............last chance They discount Darwinism and make the giant Aliens the creators of human civilization. Scott clearly stole the Aliens vs. Predator creation story and applied it to his own. It's painfully obvious. I guess it's ok since those are all stories based on his. I'm going to go out on a limb and say if he makes a sequel, he will tie in his large humanoids with the Predators somehow. Coolest scene is probably seeing the giant face-hugger. Although it makes no sense how it could grow or why it would grow to the size that it does. |
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Post by Zarana-X on Jun 16, 2012 18:34:02 GMT -8
I think the human race being rejects from another species that was purposely crash landed(stranded) here is the most feasable Sci-Fi replacement for evolution.
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Post by Bravo on Jun 17, 2012 15:22:27 GMT -8
I saw it an hour ago, and while entertaining, it's got all sorts of problems.
It's obligatory for these types of films, things go wrong because most of the characters are stupid or assholes. Why did they find the weirdest geologist ever? Who was the worthless scientist in the glasses? Why was he wearing shitty looking glass in 2094? Why was the boyfreind of Shaw (the lead heroine) on such a downer just because they hadn't found a living Engineer after being on world for less than a day? So we wouldn't miss him? Why did Charlize Theron's character, a total bitch throughout, sleep with the likeable ship's captain after talking to him for maybe 2 minutes? Why was android David seemingly intent on killing the human race, then seemingly helpful at the end?
They did not detect the earthworms (?) before. Why not? Why did them mutating gain them acid blood and great size and grey skin? The mutagen just does whatever...gets a bit goofy.
Why did the "vases" start leaking anyway? David's doing when he opened the door...but was that on purpose?
Why did the dead alien's head explode?
The c-section scene was harrowing, yet seems crazy unbelievable, because what stopped her bleeding? And why was their "child" a tentacle monster?
Why did they get Guy Pearce to play a 90 year old man? (yeah, I saw the footage of a younger Weyland giving a speech...but that's not in the movie.)
Good thing the engineer was immune to human weapons or the plot might've ended differently.
They run in front of a rolling object instead of off to the side! Classic movie dumbness.
How does human mutant fetus = tentacle monster DNA + engineer DNA (remember, they have the same DNA as humans despite their size!) = ALIEN? How exactly? I suppose this does explain how aliens change in appearance in the movies...but it's still nonsense. Why does the tentacle monster even die? I know it's a reference to face huggers, but its still bullshit. Whats his name mutated in to bumpy forehead strong man...
I was expecting the guy with glasses's DNA mixed with the worm, at least you'd have two different spieces.
What happened to his body or was it the acid burned guy's body. It seemed like they only found one body, or the scene moved too fast.
Why did Dr. Shaw think the engineer aliens changed their minds about eradicating Earth? It seemed like there an accident and that's all that prevented the ship from launching thousands of years ago? Because the pilot sure wanted to get things restarted immediately (what exactly did David say to him?).
Never mind the tech seemed ahead of ALIEN. Have to let that slide, because that's a minor problem compared to the rest.
Are we to believe that Weyland corp never went back to that world?
Why exactly did the same art exist in human cultures? A chart that's not to the alien's homeworld, but to, if we believe the captain's theory, a WMD manufacturing facility?
The whole thing smacked of trying too hard. And it was vague in some areas to cover up the fact that the story had huge holes in it.
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Post by Felix on Jun 17, 2012 16:31:39 GMT -8
When you put it like that, I like Aliens vs. Predator better :-)
Good points Bravo.
I mean glasses, wtf? lol!
Bumpy forehead was not explained very well. What does the black ooze do again?
I didn't like that Weyland was on board the whole time and nobody knew. A captain should know everything about his ship.
I see David like Skynet. He wants to destroy us. This is also kind of a reference to 2001 Space Odyssey I believe. The first phrase spoken is, "Good morning David."
Where did the ancient civilizations get the map?
Weyland probably does go back...in Prometheus 2! lol!
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Post by Bravo on Jun 18, 2012 4:21:54 GMT -8
When you put it like that, I like Aliens vs. Predator better :-) It's strange how many concepts are taken from AvP movie. Already dying Weyland character who dies as a result of contact with an extraterresitrial. Mixed crew of scientist and mercenaries, most of whom have no character development. Alien race responsible for our development. Death trap structure. One character who can piece together the history enough to let us in on it. The difference being in AvP it was laid out, but in Prometheus, David can read the writing but never says what it says!  If whatever gets loose at the end, all of humanity is doomed (Alien Queen or engineer's bio-tech goo whatever). nanotech/bio tech that does whatever...after examining the alien head, you'd think they'd have said something in regards to what they thought it was. Some have speculated there's more than one goo. Maybe that room had a bad batch. And that room had some mural on the wall...never make it out well. They say there was the alien pictured on it. So the alien xenomorph already existed in the past. Almost nobody knew anyone or even what the mission was. They just signed up for 2+ years of sleeping in deep space on a mission to another world without any idea what it was about.  The theory is he was doing what Weyland ordered him to do. But there was too much satifaction in his demeanor. He enjoyed it. Plus the obvious "doesn't everyone hate their parents?" statement.  If Weyland felt the crew was expendable, why not use mostly androids? David gets a lot done, everyone else is just screwing around. In regards to the ending. It was luck the engineer pilot found Dr. Shaw in the escape ship, and luck her that the monster killed him. Because if the pilot had survived, he'd just hop into another ship and attack Earth. Also, since when do aliens emerge from dead hosts? Something else we can explain with the goop. |
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Post by Bravo on Aug 2, 2012 17:57:11 GMT -8
The Prometheus sequel has been greenlit, so we'll have something new to pick apart in a few years.
Until then....
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Post by Swindle on Sept 11, 2012 20:14:59 GMT -8
The ancient astronaut theory is something I've seen in other movies and tv shows as well as talked about on Coast to Coast AM. I just didn't think this was a gaint leap in asking 'the big questions', its something that's been recycled; the film's strengh is actually the actors craving out mildly interesting characters. The film seemed to take turn from facing our creator(s) to wanting to track them down and ask point blank, why are you treating us like shit?
I find the character interactions more interesting than the Engineers. Elizabeth Shaw goes from asking the questions to being in survival mode. David plays a fun robot villian, clearly he's devoloped envy and anger at being less than man. Meredith is quite interesting. Is she Weyland's daughter or a android herself?
Ambiguity vs solid answers, I'll talk the ambiguity because once you get the answers, its bio weapons, your creator is a dick, or the people Lost do end up in a Limbo Church before crossing over.
I was quite sad when Merdith got squashed.
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Post by Bravo on Sept 12, 2012 11:56:09 GMT -8
David is the most interesting, and oddly sympathetic. His actions are part being a slave to Weyland and partly jealously towards humans.
Dr. Shaw seems hopelessly naive even at the end. Not that I hated her, she seemed stuck in a situation where everyone and everything seemed to betray her.
Meredith rang false to me. Ice queen, then almost warms up, then we think she might be a closet Ripley, then she just dies for no reason other than the fact she was sort of bitchy.
Weyland seems more interesting if you watched the video of him at some expo when he was much younger. (You get the impression is that it's not he's afraid of death, but his ego has so much more living to do.) Otherwise, he's a creepy guy in bad aging make-up.
The rest were as half-assed as the rest of the film. The ship's crew are noble, because well, we need them to be to committ suicide to save Earth. The geologist and biologist are morons because they need to be for stupid horror movie reasons. The space jockey is instantly hostile because things have to be rushed at that point and "we", the audience, are dumb if we can't figure why he just kills everyone.
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Post by Swindle on Sept 12, 2012 17:22:02 GMT -8
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Post by Felix on Sept 13, 2012 21:52:55 GMT -8
 I've been watching documentaries about the Egyptian pyramids. That stuff will really blow your mind |
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Post by Bravo on Oct 16, 2012 18:46:25 GMT -8
Red Letter Media talks about Prometheus on DVD
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Post by Bravo on Oct 22, 2012 17:30:28 GMT -8
Since I won't be buying the dvd/blu-ray anytime soon, I spoiled myself and watched the alternate ending...
Noomi Rapace's stunt double is a bit too obvious.
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